Has anyone tried to use SuiteWorld as a place to r...
# suiteworld
j
Has anyone tried to use SuiteWorld as a place to recruit devs and other people to help with Integrations & Customisations?
c
Yes, I've been on the receiving end of it.
The networking there for stuff like that is THE reason to go IMO
s
I was approached by partners several times at suiteworld over the year, but mostly from the folks I knew beforehand
d
Last year they specifically announced "no poaching" for partner companies. There is nothing stopping you from talking to people, especially in the dev areas for help with your needs.
m
That was my plan at the HHs
j
we are kinda getting desperate for NS people that a) don’t suck and b) don’t want $150/hr for a short while before they bugger off with all our customisations
we want people who will stick around. Have this multi-year project we are firing up
d
good luck with the "don't suck" part, lol
j
hah
yeah
s
@jen try @darrenhillconsulting or @Anthony Dixon from Toronto know them for over 8+ years quite dependable also @Warren Quirk in Vancouver if you wanna stay local
c
Cheap and doesn't suck is gonna be hard to find too.
s
by the way the ones I mentioned wont be cheap but top notch. FYI I myself charge $150 now used to charge $130 in Canadian weed
j
is @Warren Quirk a recruiter?
s
nope he used be partner @ Elegant Cloud Solution then joined Deloitte when they bought them up to start NS practice in Vancouver. After 6 month he quit that job and went freelance.
c
its hard to find netsuite people. Especially for what people are offering. Highly specialized developer with a degree, certifications, years of experience w/ also very niche tools and able to be an admin/dev/requirements gatherer/project manager/babysitter of devs. I mean asking for this for cheap is kind of a slap in the face IMO.
d
I agree with @creece but you also have to weigh in the fact that if they can do these things then the quality of work is much better, faster and there will be happier customers and less re-work later.
c
Yep. $150 is about half what netsuite professional services charges and those are some of the worst "devs" i've ever seen.
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For side work, you have to charge in the $100-150 range to make it worthwhile IMO. You gotta pay 1099 taxes and mainly in your "free time". Otherwise, its just not worth it.
d
We appreciate the plug @Sam-I-Am ... happy to have made the
don't suck
level.
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c
don't get cocky 😄
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j
We aren’t looking for
Highly specialized developer with a degree, certifications, years of experience w/ also very niche tools and able to be an admin/dev/requirements gatherer/project manager/babysitter of devs
. That doesn’t even describe ME…. We are looking more for junior/intermediate people. Honestly at this point, people who know JavaScript, understand how a database should work, and are keen to get stuck into interesting projects, would fit the bill. When I started with this team, I didn’t have any experience with NS at all but was able to pick it up along the way as I’d done lots of JS and DB stuff before, as well as writing code for CRM & CMS systems.
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I’m increasingly pushing our hiring team to consider getting in some keen newer bright people and training them up — more like how I got where I am.
(assuming I’m bright….which isn’t always true, esp pre-coffee)
d
The key to doing that is to actually spend time with them when they start and show them the ropes. If you don't, their leaning curve is too high and their productivity will be low for quite a while.
j
@dcrsmith 100% agree.
d
Hope to see/meet you at SW?
j
bit tricky when it’s still mostly just me doing everything, as I don’t have tons of free time. Luckily we’ve recently shifted over a couple of staff from other teams who want to learn NS and help me 🙂
Yes!
Even if we get someone with tons of previous NS experience on board they are still going to have to spend quite a while getting up to speed as we are using NS in some pretty non-standard ways. We do insurance (we are an MGA) so how our system works with standard record types is highly customised, plus we rely heavily on custom record types.
s
I have trained some of people from scratch in NS and SF, who eventually became experts. Two of them even followed me to multiple companies over the years, and now as leads at some pretty big companies. Recently I hired one of my new trainee from my last company and will be grooming him. @dcrsmith is right 100%
j
heh, grooming
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Yeah, I feel like training them up increases sense of loyalty, and they are more likely to take ownership of the projects. At least that’s how I feel about my role (I really like working here, have been here for 5+ years).
perhaps I’m just #drinkingthekoolaid
d
I've trained many people. It works. I still do and I act as our company & dev coach. Love sharing the knowledge. The more we all know the better we become as a team.
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@jen My koolaid is usually spiked. LOL
s
I usually stay in one company at least 5 years, last one was close to 6. I come in when the company is in growth phase, build there business systems eco systems, stabilize/optimize processes and finally prepare or take them through IPO. Once done there aren't any thing else to do and I get bored, do jump ship or someone else poaches me, story begins again. My life story in a nutshell
j
I stayed at my last role for 8 years, but that was more a Stockholm Syndrome situation….
c
I'm averaging 3 years and bouncing