one thing to consider is larger companies are more...
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one thing to consider is larger companies are more likely to have savvy lawyers (at least in the USA) and you may be prohibited from doing your side jobs if they relate to NetSuite.
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Even if it's a different industry?
k
I wouldn't expect to be able to do anything that was related to NetSuite for a side hustle given that my job is NetSuite consulting.
Not that I've time for a side hustle...
t
I am just curious how would they know, yes they can mention that in the initial docs but what is someone still does that secretly ?
k
It'd mostly be grounds for firing if they found out - and no amount of small supplemental income is worth risking my primary income.
s
For you it might be different but I work for one company who is medical device manufacturer but on the side or the weekend if I work for online retailer that sales furniture that shouldn’t be conflict
k
You're job function isn't as a consultant though I presume.
s
Yes, NetSuite administrator
k
Meaning you're working for an end user. If I work as a consultant in another account I'm directly competing against my role taking revenue from my company.
s
Yes you are correct
k
That's the lens that stalbert was posting his response from.
s
Aha so I need to look at my job offer letter to figure that out
k
Yeah, I'd doubt they care if you are doing part time NS work on the side for another company as long as you are getting what you need to do done and you aren't doing it on their time.
but I have a pretty air-tight non compete
s
Yeah I agree, I am sure there might be clause for similar industry but if I do something non related
Even for consulting if you are not full time, you can work for different partners right?
k
Who hires a consultant and doesn't do full time?
s
Like you work in 1099 not W2 , no benefits or nothing
k
Oh, if you are 1099 not W2 then that's probably different.
s
Yeah
When I was consulting I was only doing 1099
s
I'm a part time, W2 consultant 🙂. So it can happen.
s
You get more money with 1099 n you can write off lot of business expenses.
You can start your own company and be a sole proprietor, you don’t need to have employees
But if you go thru agency some agency don’t like C2C because they want to eat the cake
k
and give up the guaranteed salary I get? No thanks. Got a house, crushing student debt, and a wife and kids to take care of.
Plus I like the support network around me.
and not having to drum up my own sales...
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No, I get the job security but when you have part time only that’s what I am saying
Yes it’s hard to find work solo
s
I have been an independent consultant in the past and frankly there are were very few business expenses I could write off. In fact, I don't think the expenses even outweighed the self employment taxes.
k
Yeah, I think a lot of people overestimate what they can legally write off as a business expense. Unless you are flying to clients and paying for it out of pocket, odds are you have a very small amount that is write off able. I had people telling my wife to write off part of our home expenses due to the home office, and nope. Don't meet requirements. "oh write off all the office furniture you had to buy" nope... wouldn't hold up in an audit. "oh write off your internet" nope.. wouldn't hold up in audit.
s
Yeah I know that’s why I use the tax preparing service for those, I don’t know what I can write off n what I can’t
s
as knowledge workers, we don't really have much in the way of expenses. The most significant thing I could expense was a new computer every 3 years.
k
Even those tax prep tools tend to be inadequate - they ask you if you had them, not provide you with the full requirements.
Unless there's a human you can trust to ask the right questions - I'd be leery of writing off anything as a knowledge worker.
Except maybe a new computer every 3 years - and it's gonna have to be a reasonable computer. Buying yourself a top of the line gaming computer is not likely to hold up.
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Primarily because they can then say "you're using this for functions other than work"
s
Yeah I agree, I mean live person not TurboTax stuff
c
As long as you aren't stealing clients or giving away propriatary stuff, they can't really do anything to do you for doing side work in NetSuite. NDAs do not hold up in every state as well. If you want to do side work, just do it and don't tell everyone and problem solved.
k
Outside of firing you for it, yeah, their ability to do anything to you is relatively limited.
I have seen folks fired for it.
c
If you're in one of those states where they can fire you for anything I guess that'll work.
Their firing reason in writing said "fired for doing sidework"?
k
Not sure what exactly it said.
c
I def believe it could happen... no employer is ever gonna tell me what I can do outside of business hours though. I'd just leave that place that point. There's too many partners/clients looking for netsuite people at like 150k+ there's no reason to deal w/ control freaks/micro managers for your own personal time.
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My 2 Cents: The employer is hiring you for your knowledge. If you are dumb enough to accept a side gig that overwhelms you and you can't get the first job done then the employer has a dang good reason to can you. But if your side gig is an hour or two nightly (or something like that) employer 1 can stay out of your business. These moonlighting rules are to avoid conflicts. Some make sense and some don't.
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c
Yeah I am assuming you can handle both and they are just fussing to fuss.
s
I can only tolerate NS half-time. Can't imagine doing it full time + more on the side. That would be hellish.
c
You're not wrong but there's some easy money to be had in side work. I was working maybe 10 or so extra hours per week and pulling in an extra 3-4k/month just from that.
t
Perks of asking questions from experieced people, you ask little, and you get so much. So much overwhelmed.
I think working on side also gives you exposure to more open environment, while in a company there are specialist for everything. So there are good chances of learning and earning in that. But balancing both jobs and your life would be a great art, which will take time.
Since you are here , would you guys be kind enough to suggest me on my previous message. Its this-2 on index.
I would love to hear opinions from you.
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wow @creece, with 3-4k extra a month I can certainly understand how you can afford all these cool toys 🙂
k
Yeah, no kidding.
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I also have side hustles which can be quite lucrative, also act as technical adviser for couple of application development startups. There is no conflict between my FTE and consulting gig because in my FTE role I am managing company's enterprise applications and company is a pharma company. I make sure that there is no conflict of interest.
Lately I have been turning away quite few gigs because of bandwidth. Planning to join my old consulting company by early next year with my business partners, already a MS and SF solution partner just need to get NS one too.