i can't access the record's id in beforeSubmit/beforeLoad but I can in afterSubmit

If it is the brand new record, it is not yet saved to DB until after submit is triggered. That's why we will not have id in before Load/ submit. But if we open an existing record we will have it.

hey @Chandu - according to @battk it is still possible to obtain the record id via context in BeforeSubmit

Keep in mind i said you could get and modify the record in beforeSubmit. Not get the id.

Ah right. Thanks. That means we dont load the record - instead get a reference from the context which would be the oldRecord?

thanks for this - i seem to struggle to find relevant info in suite answers